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By Phil Hecken So, last evening the Philadelphia Phillies hosted the San Diego Padres in a “Turn Back The Clock” (to 1983) game, and while it was a treat to see both teams in relatively correct throwbacks (and it’s always great to see the Padres wearing brown jerseys), the game was still marred by several minor (and not-so-minor) anachronisms and inconsistencies in the uniform department. While I’ve given up hope that the players will ever wear “throwback” unis in their appropriate cut and style (which is their wont — I’ll give them that if they’ve made it to the show, they have the right to wear the unis in their preferred tailoring — Chris Sale would agree with me). Still, it would be nice to see tight cuts and stirrups. But I won’t complain about that anymore (other than just now). What does bother me is when Majestic either doesn’t care enough to get the little (and easily fixable) details right — or simply just doesn’t care — putting out throwbacks that are.close.
enough to correct that 99.9% of the public won’t notice or won’t care. It’s the.1% who are Uni Watchers to whom these details make a difference. Let’s take a look at what the respective teams actually wore in 1983 (thanks to Bill Henderson for his invaluable guide, and to Paul for giving me the screenshots below): Phillies 1983: Here’s some game action shots: And some video: Looked pretty great, right? As you can see from Bill Henderson’s page, the team wore that style for quite a while, but 1983 is the year the team made it to the World Series (losing to the Orioles). It was also their 100th Anniversary, and they on the left shoulder. Aside from the distinctive burgundy color, the thing you probably most notice is the fact that the jerseys were, rather than the pullovers or buttonfronts which were much more common at the time. They were raglan style, with NOB’s on nameplates.
Pants were belted. Jerseys and pants had solid thick stripes, including side panels on the jersey. Padres 1983: Some action shots: As you can see, the jerseys were in the v-neck pullover style with vertically arched, direct-sewn NOBs. The caps featured a cut that neatly formed a shape. They wore white pants on the road (as did several teams during those years when they wore dark jerseys instead of gray road shirts/pants). They had beautiful brown stirrups with gold sanis, and of course,.
It goes without saying that batting helmets back then were. Their pants were of the sansabelt variety, with brown/orange/gold striping (same as the sleeve striping) Sohow’d they match up last evening? The first thing that struck me was the helmets worn by the Padres. Yes, they are one of those teams who have gone to matte helmets, including on their. So, instead of the glossy or semi-glossy hats they wore back in 1983, they just wore their current helmets.
In the words of the immortal Keyshawn Johnson “C’mon Man!” Seriously, would it have been.that. difficult to affix some gold decals with old school “SD” on them? They’ve worn the 1983-style unis as throwbacks before, and they had back then. They got the front of the jerseys pretty much correct (font-wise, stripe-wise etc.) and they did outfit the players with white sansabelt pants. Unfortunately, we didn’t get to see much (any?) hosiery, and they wore black shoes, completely ruining the throwback vibe.
How about the NOB’s? Were they nameplates, vertically arched like in 1983 (I think you know the answer to this one): Time to play ball in 1983 threads!
П“º 📻 💻 — San Diego Padres (@Padres) Nope. Radially arched (but with with nameplates). Perhaps these errors (small though they may be) aren’t as egregious as an apostrophe catastrophe — they are one of those (to steal Paul’s wonderful turn of a phrase). I dearly, sorely want the Padres to #BringBackTheBrown (a ), but it kills me when they actually do bring back brown from their past and screw so many little things up. I mentioned earlier they’ve thrown back to 1983-era unis before — both on the road and at home: As you can see from Bill Henderson’s meticulous documentation, Majestic screwed those up as well (though not as badly, it seems, as last evening). It would be easy to blame the Phillies (since they supply the Padres with the unis) for this, but the Pads even screwed up the throwbacks when they wore them at home. I know I can’t hope the players will wear 1983 tight cuts, stirrups and sanis, but they could have at least had white shoes and glossy helmets.
Guess the Phillies didn’t want to go the extra-extra yard (and apparently the Padres didn’t care in the least). How about the Phillies?
Well, they did a.pretty. good job of replicating the 1983 uniform — right down to the anniversary patch. They got maroon-red helmets, and had their side panels in tact. Nick Williams due up first in the bottom of the 9th after the Padres took a 4-3 lead in the top of the inning. — Phillies (@Phillies). But wait — take a look at that photo again.
Notice anything”missing”? That’s right — the damn things are buttonfronts, not zipperfronts! Now, I understand there is a concern for player safety nowadays, and zipperfronts fell out of fashion (literally) not just because of how they looked — they could pose a genuine hazard. BUTwhen the Chicago Cubs, THEY had zipperfronts.
Those look to be a much “safer” style than what the Phillies wore in 1983 (or the Cubs wore in several years) — so clearly Majestic can make a zipperfront jersey for a throwback. Perhaps the Phillies didn’t ask for one? More likely, they probably thought no one would notice.
They did pretty well on the rest of the uni — getting the caps (and burgundy) correct, the racing stripes on the pins were fine1983 patch on the shoulder. Just not the zipper. I dislike throwback uni’s for the same reason I dislike tribute bands: I’m alive and it’s now and I want the “now” I’m experiencing to be authentic and not fabrication. Even real deal icons like The Rolling Stones make me cringe when they decide to tour.
I would never pay to see them as relics. John Lennon refused to get back together with The Beatles because he thought it would be silly singing “I Want To Hold Your Hand” at the age of forty. We can’t go back. Throwback uni’s are empty calories. The problem is the “now” in the MLB, and unfortunately too many places, is a severe blanding down to the level of pablum mixed with the worchestire sauce topped on ice cream of the “special day” (Father’s Day, Mother’s Day, etc.) jerseys.
If you current uniform pales in comparison with the throwback, the problem is your current uniform. If bringing back the throwbacks for games just highlights the inadequacies of your current uniform it isn’t a bad thing – at least we get a fabulous dessert after our mediocre lukewarm fast food meal. Use the throwbacks, aspects of the throwbacks, or come up with something better with a distinct appealing identity for your regular team uniform. Music on the radio that isn’t bad enough for most people to bother changing the station doesn’t make it great or even good radio. The uni’s looked great. Complaints for complaints sake. Expecting the road team to get glossy helmets for a one off game across the country is picking nitsthey did at least use their brown helmets which look way better than blue would have.
Shoes are not team issuenow you are expecting players to procure White cleats for a one off game that they likely don’t care about? Maybe the players did not care for the zipper fronts. At the end of the day this is not an exhibition game. Would you rather someone go Chris Sale on them? Fine to note the discrepanciesover the top to whine about them. Boils down to the question of what is the purpose of a throwback game?
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I say the purpose is to pay tribute to the past, not to play dress-up in the uniforms of the past. Phil’s criticism is predicated on the belief that the purpose is to play dress-up, not to pay tribute. Which is a defensible opinion, but that difference is the crux of one’s agreement or disagreement with the content and tone of Phil’s critique. For the most obsessive critics, the game is a cosplay event. For the less obsessive observers, the game is a baseball game. That said, it actually bothers me more when a team gets the throwback uniforms close to accurate but then flubs minor details. Better to look less accurate – to capture the spirit, not the letter of the original.
But zipper versus buttons is not a minor detail. It’s a major, fundamental character of a uniform’s fit, comfort, and function. If the game is a cosplay contest, then the lack of a zipper is a legitimate complaint.
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If the game is a baseball game, then the lack of a zipper is not only understandable, it’s defensible and almost mandatory. If the point is to play the game, then teams shouldn’t change the closure mechanism of their shirts for merely aesthetic reasons for a single game. Exactly as a team ought not force its players to wear 1920s gloves for a 1920s throwback game. Besides the things mentioned for the Phils (no zippers, no arched letters), the lettering on the back doesn’t even match the letters on the late 80’s unis when they ditched the arching, that was thinner. Also the numbers are close but not right.
The throwback numbers are a bit thinner, and the fives and zeroes are wrong. The original fives weren’t as perfectly rounded on the bottom (kind of hard to explain), and the original zeroes were straight on the sides ( ) while the throwback zeroes where more oval shaped and rounded on the sides. Also, the originals had thicker pinstripes.
I have always been a huge supporter for “bring back the brown” for the Padres. As the present brown third uniform shows, the brown and yellow look can be appealing when done right. I would also be a huge supporter for “bring back the burgundy” for the Phillies for their regular uniforms.
Might be time for a brand new uniform for them which incorporates this colour and old logo. These moves would be good for these teams as it represents a switch back to colours which are distinctly signature to them in the MLB world.
Lets add some more colours to the spectrum rather than having another just another team wearing navy blue and another team wearing red. Categories.