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MesaFX Printed from: 3dfxzone.it WorldWide Community Topic URL: Printed on: Topic: Topic author: PanoramixDruida Subject: MesaFX Posted on: 14:09:05 Message: It's good news to now that finally we'll have OpenGL updates!!! I can't wait the day to download these dll!!! Thanks a lot!!! Replies: Reply author: Mrkhyron Replied on: 14:35:06 Message: Reply author: PHOENIX Replied on: 23:40:13 Message: Yeah! Keep on the good work! Best regards to the team Reply author: dborca Replied on: 15:11:23 Message: quote: Originally posted by PanoramixDruida It's good news to now that finally we'll have OpenGL updates!!!
I can't wait the day to download these dll!!! Thanks a lot!!! Yes, I can't wait However, bear in mind Mesa is MESA not MesaGL! Regards, Borca Daniel Reply author: PanoramixDruida Replied on: 17:34:25 Message: What is the difference between Mesa and MesaGL? I ask this, just because I don't know it! Reply author: dborca Replied on: 18:22:37 Message: quote: Originally posted by PanoramixDruida What is the difference between Mesa and MesaGL?
I ask this, just because I don't know it! Basically, NONE. But anything.GL related might or might not piss off the SGI guys. We don't want to bother anyone. Regards, Borca Daniel Reply author: BlackOut Replied on: 20:10:50 Message: Daniel: What are the differenes between MESA and OpenGL, are they vastly different or quite similar?
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Could you give me the technical answer? I know it's a sick habbit but I gobble up whatever I can techie related especially technical specifications. I have always 'heard' of mesa but it's never been explained to me.if nothing else, do you maybe have a link to SGI's site for MESA? (yeah I know, it's a bit lazy asking ) - 'Shop smart.shop S-MART.YA GOT THAT?!!' -Ash from Army of darkness Reply author: dborca Replied on: 12:17:29 Message: quote: Originally posted by BlackOut Daniel: What are the differenes between MESA and OpenGL, are they vastly different or quite similar? Could you give me the technical answer? No differences to user!
But don't tell anyone. The reason Mesa is not.GL something is to avoid pissing off SGI people. Quote: I have always 'heard' of mesa but it's never been explained to me.if nothing else, do you maybe have a link to SGI's site for MESA? (yeah I know, it's a bit lazy asking ) I think it will be self-explanatory. Regards, Borca Daniel Reply author: BlackOut Replied on: 02:46:36 Message: Pissing off SGI - is a corporation like that acutally spending the time watching over these forums or this site? I get the distinct feeling that from what you say that they must be reading these forums or something?
I don't mean to piss of SGI in anyway way - why they'd care what you or I would say considering Mesa is weird by how you seem to be walking on egg-shells about this is weirding me out a tad bit. Like they are watching over your back or something. Is there a URL on SGI's site you can provide so that I can go to their website and read for myself? - 'Shop smart.shop S-MART.YA GOT THAT?!!' -Ash from Army of darkness Reply author: BlackOut Replied on: 02:48:07 Message: Never mind in regards to providing a link - you already did that - DOH! My mistake - 'Shop smart.shop S-MART.YA GOT THAT?!!' -Ash from Army of darkness Reply author: ampman Replied on: 03:56:15 Message: quote: Originally posted by BlackOut Pissing off SGI - is a corporation like that acutally spending the time watching over these forums or this site?
I get the distinct feeling that from what you say that they must be reading these forums or something? Who can really tell? So why not play it safe and cover your butt just in case? When the sun goes down, the music turns up. Windows XP Pro Athlon XP 1800+ GeForce2(temporarily, for compatibility purposes) MSI K7T266-A 768MB DDR 2700 RAM SonicEdge 5.1 Sound Card Reply author: BlackOut Replied on: 05:28:53 Message: Yeah, I can understand that but it just sounds weird, especially since SGI seems to have absolutely nothing to do with Mesa, and it is developed through one of the sourceforge projects meaning it's 3rd party. Why would a corporation like that pay attention to (no offense here) to a piddle little no name website that supports and abandoned video card of about 3 years now?
I highly doubt they'd use their time and resources to watchdog a site like this when they got bigger and better thigns to do - this site is just small time game that isn't a threat and/or a corporation like Nvidia or ATI, which I could see if there were to watch dog a site like that. That's the only reason I ask.but cover yer ass 101 is a good thing now-a-days. What would they do if I said, 'SGI OpenGL blows donkey balls'? That's just an example, I just so happen to think highly of their OpenGL, but I think you can see why I think this is just a bit odd. But - whatever.I guess. Not a big problem, just raised a brow with me though.
'Shop smart.shop S-MART.YA GOT THAT?!!' -Ash from Army of darkness Reply author: Amigamerlin Replied on: 09:24:35 Message: quote: Originally posted by BlackOut Yeah, I can understand that but it just sounds weird, especially since SGI seems to have absolutely nothing to do with Mesa, and it is developed through one of the sourceforge projects meaning it's 3rd party.
Mesa is MESA - Opengl is opengl nothing else then is right to call it how it should be called. If your nik is blackout you must be called Blackout and not elseware. Quote: Why would a corporation like that pay attention to (no offense here) to a piddle little no name website that supports and abandoned video card of about 3 years now? I highly doubt they'd use their time and resources to watchdog a site like this when they got bigger and better thigns to do - this site is just small time game that isn't a threat and/or a corporation like Nvidia or ATI, which I could see if there were to watch dog a site like that. This is not the problem!!
Mesa is an alternative at opengl for linux and is respect for the author calling it with the its real name!! Only This - you understand? When we release this DLL to download the dll will be called MESA.dll and not opengl32.dll. After to use it you must rename it. But the name is MESA!! The good of this DLL that is right now 100% opengl 1.1 compatible and.% 1.2.% 1.3 and.1.4% You can see yourself the statement of this dll in the next hour in this board.
Not too bad Daniel and koolsmoky are other guys doing another GREAT MIRACLE!!. I'm really proud to have 2 ALIEN (mean 2 really really really skilled guys) in the team!! Bye to all Amigamerlin 3DFXZONE MODERATOR Powerd By Voodoo5 6000 Reply author: dborca Replied on: 12:20:26 Message: quote: Originally posted by BlackOut That's the only reason I ask.but cover yer ass 101 is a good thing now-a-days. What would they do if I said, 'SGI OpenGL blows donkey balls'?
I remember Lecram25 tried to piss me off some time ago. I chilled him out! But another great mind arose from the crowd. If you really, really, really feel like saying: 'SGI OpenGL blows donkey balls', then go ahead! Freedom of speach! You can say anything that you want as long as your statements don't include third parties! Since you know sh!t about Mesa, try to be clever enough and refrain from making stupid statements!
Until now, I passively watched your, Lecram25's and ampmap's evolutions. Don't make me (ab)use my position in the forums, ok? BTW, at least ampman had a nice opinion on this thread. Regards, Borca Daniel Reply author: lecram25 Replied on: 16:04:00 Message: How exactly did I try to piss you off?
If I did, I swear it was unintentional. /me starts to recall. AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.33GHz Epox 8RDA+ nForce 2 256mb DDR PC2100 Sapphire ATI Radeon 9500np9700pro Sound Blaster Live! X-Gamer 5.1 3dfx VoodooTV 200 PCI Western Digital 40Gig 7200RPM Pioneer 106s DVD LG 52x24x52 CDRW Cambridge Soundworks/Creative Labs Desktop Theater 5.1 DTT3500 Digital Speakers Creative IR Remote WindowsXP Professional SP1 Reply author: dborca Replied on: 16:40:24 Message: quote: Originally posted by lecram25 How exactly did I try to piss you off? If I did, I swear it was unintentional. Remember this: quote: So if your Voodoo3 is so damn powerfull and great, why aren't people giving two.s about a driver update?
If memory still doesn't serve: Don't worry, I'm past the heat! But I don't like being constantly.ed up, okay? Regards, Borca Daniel Reply author: BlackOut Replied on: 18:47:39 Message: WOAH WOAH WOAH - I said for.EXAMPLE. daniel - I like OpenGL just as much as I like DirectX, I think I must've worded it wrong or something - I was just saying - becuase I think it's funny SGI would waste time and resources on this site. That's all - I did not mean to create a firestorm here. Honestly - I.realy.
do like OpenGL, I also Like DirectX just as much.for the record. I appologize for the mis-understanding. And Amigamerlin I have no Idea what you are going off about on my nikname - it's blackout and that's all there is to it - if you think I am someone else, well - I am not.
'Shop smart.shop S-MART.YA GOT THAT?!!' -Ash from Army of darkness Reply author: BlackOut Replied on: 19:26:10 Message: You wanna tell me something - what in goodness sake is the point of these forums - not just yours but all the 3dfx fourms on the 'net? Really it's all BS becuase they always get outta hand - and yes without me being in the middle as I would be accused of here (at this site) - and it al turns to a big pile of BS and that is what is becoming of a good majority of the fourms on this site - this posting included. Paranoia is catching on wayyyyy too much you think I am using another nickname fine - for all I care delete my account, lecram25 and ampman - which I have been accused of being (and I am not) will still post and I can't stop them, nor will I try. These forums keep becoming null/void/waste of time as this one has become once Daniel and Amigamerlin lost their composure with me.
It was a simple question and no one kept their EGO in check and leave it at the door. 'Shop smart.shop S-MART.YA GOT THAT?!!'
-Ash from Army of darkness Reply author: lecram25 Replied on: 20:18:51 Message: Woops, sorry Daniel. I DO remember that post; I'm not sure what came over me.:: runs and hides:: And don't listen to blackout, he's crazy!!! Noone should go about deleting my account, Or I'll get Elvis on your back!!! AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.33GHz Epox 8RDA+ nForce 2 256mb DDR PC2100 Sapphire ATI Radeon 9500np9700pro Sound Blaster Live! X-Gamer 5.1 3dfx VoodooTV 200 PCI Western Digital 40Gig 7200RPM Pioneer 106s DVD LG 52x24x52 CDRW Cambridge Soundworks/Creative Labs Desktop Theater 5.1 DTT3500 Digital Speakers Creative IR Remote WindowsXP Professional SP1 Reply author: ampman Replied on: 23:45:15 Message: BlackOut are you nuts????::smacks BlackOut in the back of the head several times:: if you want to leave, fine, go, but i think lecram and I enjoy it here. Just cause one guy gets on your nerves doesn't mean you should run and hide.
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Sometimes it's more fun just to toy with them. When the sun goes down, the music turns up. Windows XP Pro Athlon XP 1800+ GeForce2(temporarily, for compatibility purposes) MSI K7T266-A 768MB DDR 2700 RAM SonicEdge 5.1 Sound Card Reply author: bloodworm Replied on: 00:11:01 Message: MESA will be called MESA. OpenGL will be called openGL. You could even say MESA (like OpenGL).
Using the parenthesis clarifies that it is only LIKE OpenGL, and not OpenGL.calling it MesaGL would not be out of the question, as all of the letters ARE an anacronym for full words anyways. The MESA guys want us to call it MESA and not MESAGL because it IS their baby and they DO have a copyright on it, which gives them the right to control how it is presented to the world and such (even though it is free and open source). Which also makes it the right (and correct) thing to do as well. By the way, our 3 year old HARDWARE has, and always had, the 'license' to use SGI's stuff at will. It is part of the ongoing hardware license that 3dFX and SGI agreed upon back then. GLIDE has been open source for ages. And I do believe that DirectX has been open for hardware use for some time now.
Reply author: BlackOut Replied on: 00:27:24 Message: Lecream - you need to get a life, get lost you impotent little monkey. Why don't you go somewhere else and create your own jerk forum - you're already leading the pack you can post all the moronic saying and idiodic icons you want. Where's your 'owned' icon you keep posting via the x3dfx forums. You're a little kiddie - I only deal with men, not little kids. Ampman - hey look - if they think that your login is mine well fine I challenge them to do something about it. Otherwise - enough! Get on my nerves - no I was letting them know that they.forgot.
to read ALL of my message and skipped the fact that I said '.I just happen to like OpenGL' Daniel just went nuts - why? And Amingmerlin just started jabbering something about nickname and from what I made out of it is some sort of accuzation about me beingn LePunk or your login. 'Shop smart.shop S-MART.YA GOT THAT?!!' -Ash from Army of darkness Reply author: ampman Replied on: 01:35:37 Message: sorry m8, thought u were suggesting to delete all our screennames, which wouldn't be cool.
Anyways, take it easy on lepunk, one of these days he'll grow up. And if they still believe that you and I are the same, why don't they just check IPs? Or do they not log them here? If we're gonna continue this fit, one of us should create a nice little thread in the off-topic section, and allow these discussions to continue in peace. Anyways, props to the Mesa team, I'll be downloading it as soon as i finish up these nVidia drivers from omega. EDIT: I think what AmigaMerlin meant was that you wanted to be called BlackOut, not otherwise, or something like that.
In other words, i think he believes us, that we aren't the same person, and was just making a little joke, which didn't turn out very well with the italian-english translation. Is that what you meant amigamerlin? EDIT AGAIN:@BlackOut, you can delete your own double post, unless the admins have decided not to let you delete any more. When the sun goes down, the music turns up. Windows XP Pro Athlon XP 1800+ GeForce2(temporarily, for compatibility purposes) MSI K7T266Pro2-A 768MB DDR 2700 RAM SonicEdge 5.1 Sound Card Sony 500 watt 5.1 surround sound Reply author: BlackOut Replied on: 02:13:54 Message: I only meant for myself in regrads to acount deletion - but instead - yeah - why not check the IP - just about every place I know of that has forums loggs the IP. You speak the truth my friend. I will create an off-topic discussion where it will continue on whatever traction it may have.
Hey Ampman - I have made a new off-topic discussion for this, check it out here: - 'Shop smart.shop S-MART.YA GOT THAT?!!' -Ash from Army of darkness Reply author: lecram25 Replied on: 03:13:07 Message: Um ampman, he did mean to delete our 'names' quote: for all I care delete my account, lecram25 and ampman And blackout, you totally misunderstood Amiga.show's what level of intellect you're on.
Originally posted by Amigamerlin: quote: Mesa is MESA - Opengl is opengl nothing else then is right to call it how it should be called. If your nik is blackout you must be called Blackout and not elseware. What he was trying to say was that there is no difference between 'Mesa' and 'MESA' (notice the case sensitivity). Hence him bringing in your 'name'; i.e. Whether it's spelt with a capital 'B' or lowercase, we still who it is.
You really might want to go see a shrink, you've got some serious mental issues. AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.33GHz Epox 8RDA+ nForce 2 256mb DDR PC2100 Sapphire ATI Radeon 9500np9700pro Sound Blaster Live! X-Gamer 5.1 3dfx VoodooTV 200 PCI Western Digital 40Gig 7200RPM Pioneer 106s DVD LG 52x24x52 CDRW Cambridge Soundworks/Creative Labs Desktop Theater 5.1 DTT3500 Digital Speakers Creative IR Remote WindowsXP Professional SP1 Reply author: Amigamerlin Replied on: 07:39:23 Message: quote: Originally posted by bloodworm MESA will be called MESA. OpenGL will be called openGL. You could even say MESA (like OpenGL). Using the parenthesis clarifies that it is only LIKE OpenGL, and not OpenGL.calling it MesaGL would not be out of the question, as all of the letters ARE an anacronym for full words anyways.
The MESA guys want us to call it MESA and not MESAGL because it IS their baby and they DO have a copyright on it, which gives them the right to control how it is presented to the world and such (even though it is free and open source). Which also makes it the right (and correct) thing to do as well.
By the way, our 3 year old HARDWARE has, and always had, the 'license' to use SGI's stuff at will. It is part of the ongoing hardware license that 3dFX and SGI agreed upon back then. GLIDE has been open source for ages. And I do believe that DirectX has been open for hardware use for some time now.
Completely agree!! Blackout stop creating confusion. You are doing only this and you don't have understood nothing of what I have writed!! Read what I have quoted (from bloodword) and this is what I have write to you in my previous post.
Then calm down and be more polite. LIKE I SAID no useless war or flame in this board I hope you understood this time!! Well now some little news.
This is the promised statement THIS IS 3DFXOGL THIS IS NEW MESA.DLL Amigamerlin 3DFXZONE MODERATOR Powerd By Voodoo5 6000 Reply author: qrazi Replied on: 10:38:13 Message: nice! So how much does the vsa100 support? It states 26% opengl 1.4 now, how far can that be stretched for example? What is the highest opengl version the vsa100 can do 100%? ECS K7s5a@ 147 MHz, Athlon XP 1600+@1825+, Voodoo5 5500 @166 MHz Reply author: dborca Replied on: 14:20:23 Message: ENOUGH!
@lecram25 Apologies accepted! As I said, I'm past the heat.
Note: go ahead with Elvis! I'm prepared for the worst. @ampmap Promising in the beginning, ended up just like any other Forum junkie! @blackout Man, you're paranoid!
And, FYI, I hate DirectX! Yet I won't say it is related to a former UK software package. Note: just because you have a problem with excuses, doesn't mean you need to offend Lecram25 for doing so. Now, to all: Primo, I didn't go nuts! People asked why Mesa and not MesaGL! I explained more than once!
If some of you have understanding problems, well, that is. Secundo, Mesa cares not about the former relationship between SGI and 3dfx! Mesa is, by excellence, a SOFTWARE graphics library!
That is one of its main goals: this way, you can test the correct output from a videocard. Regards, Borca Daniel Reply author: bloodworm Replied on: 14:28:38 Message: What function did we lose out of the 1.3 section?
And are the functions that can be done in hardware still done through the old ICD? Or does MESA.dll take ALL the calls and process them? I am very interested indeed! Keep us posted please. Reply author: dborca Replied on: 14:42:44 Message: @qrazi & bloodworm quote: Originally posted by bloodworm What function did we lose out of the 1.3 section? And are the functions that can be done in hardware still done through the old ICD?
Or does MESA.dll take ALL the calls and process them? I am very interested indeed! Keep us posted please. Glad to see anyone still interested in the main problem! The most important missing feature is texture compression!
Currently underway! VSA can also do EXTtextureenv! Maybe emulate texture border?!? Some extensions can be tricked! Perhaps we will decide to support those in SW! Or, 'au contraire' defer support and rely only on the VSA HW capabilities. Regards, Borca Daniel Reply author: BlackOut Replied on: 21:34:31 Message: quote: Originally posted by dborca ENOUGH!
@blackout Man, you're paranoid! And, FYI, I hate DirectX!
Yet I won't say it is related to a former UK software package. Note: just because you have a problem with excuses, doesn't mean you need to offend Lecram25 for doing so. Regards, Borca Daniel Daneil you are the one with the excuse - sorry bud - but you actually thought I said I hate OpenGL - I said.WHAT IF.
then followed up by saying I.happen to like it. Excuse my butt, try actualy reading the.WHOLE. message and not just parts of it. Lecram brings it on himself - being nasty as possible - so don't tell me about offending - especially when dealing with someone like him does it agressivley so. I am not going to be a stoner hippie and be touchy feely and worry about offending - sorry but I don't take a liking to BS and will feed it back. Paranoid, no just sick of the BS especially what you are flinging at me now - dream on.
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I am sick of the whole ID crisis that just seems to keep cropping up. You don't like DirectX well.good for you.whoop-E-doo.I hope that works for ya - I really don't care.
Like or hate what you will. And I do appreciate AmigaMerlin finally shedding some light with those snapshots that's better than providing me a link to Mesa3D website. I am not a programmer and non of that provides me what I was looking for. Could we beat the bush further.
Anyone else care to keep this thing goin' or shall we bring this thing back on track? Reply author: ampman Replied on: 21:47:52 Message: @BlackOut, GET OVER IT!!
It was a mistake, okay? I can understand defending yoursellf in one or two posts, but one misunderstanding does not require all this. @Anyone who can tell me: i keep hearing that Mesa is for linux, is it also for windows? Also, where can I get Mesa 5.1? All I can find is Mesa 5.0.2 on the sourceforge site. When the sun goes down, the music turns up.
Windows XP Pro Athlon XP 1800+ GeForce2(temporarily, for compatibility purposes) MSI K7T266Pro2-A 768MB DDR 2700 RAM SonicEdge 5.1 Sound Card Sony 500 watt 5.1 surround sound Reply author: lecram25 Replied on: 22:30:57 Message: Yeah really BlackOut, GET OVER IT! GET OVER YOURSELF! If you continue like this, you're gonna get yourself banned, again.remember, Daniel is a Mod, EDIT: can we get a date on this new ogl release? Approximation? AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.33GHz Epox 8RDA+ nForce 2 256mb DDR PC2100 Sapphire ATI Radeon 9500np9700pro Sound Blaster Live!
X-Gamer 5.1 3dfx VoodooTV 200 PCI Western Digital 40Gig 7200RPM Pioneer 106s DVD LG 52x24x52 CDRW Cambridge Soundworks/Creative Labs Desktop Theater 5.1 DTT3500 Digital Speakers Creative IR Remote WindowsXP Professional SP1 Reply author: dborca Replied on: 10:55:07 Message: quote: Originally posted by ampman @Anyone who can tell me: i keep hearing that Mesa is for linux, is it also for windows? Also, where can I get Mesa 5.1? All I can find is Mesa 5.0.2 on the sourceforge site. Mesa is, again - by excellence - a multiplatform. Platform It was primarily designed for Linux, yes! But also supports Win32, DOS, BeOS (I think) and probably more. Also integrates with SciTech SNAP, GGI, whatever.
I haven't paid much attention to 5.0.2, because is a dead branch! 5.1 is underway! Brian asked us to commit the latest changes to the trunk this week! Perhaps, by the weekend. Because any of us can delay the official release, the deadline is very flexible. So, a Mesa release can happen only when everybody agrees (mainly Brian, of course ).
PS: you can always 'checkout' the CVS snapshot and compile it yourself! Just kidding.
But then again, why not? I credit anyone else with my programming skills until proven otherwise! Regards, Borca Daniel Reply author: dborca Replied on: 10:57:22 Message: quote: Originally posted by lecram25 EDIT: can we get a date on this new ogl release? Regards, Borca Daniel Reply author: dborca Replied on: 11:09:04 Message: quote: Originally posted by BlackOut Anyone else care to keep this thing goin' or shall we bring this thing back on track? We are trying to do it, already. You keep pumping spam into this topic.
Quote: Originally posted by dborca ENOUGH! Man, can you read? All in all, you're not worth of a(nother) reply! BTW, you should check Lecram25's reply. I really loved the 'detail' part. PS: as for the 'piddle little no name website that supports and abandoned video card of about 3 years now'.
Why are you hanging around? We don't want to keep you from doing great things. Regards, Borca Daniel Reply author: vykupitel Replied on: 12:50:14 Message: quote: Originally posted by dborca PS: you can always 'checkout' the CVS snapshot and compile it yourself! Just kidding. But then again, why not? I credit anyone else with my programming skills until proven otherwise!
So you have CVS snapshot of 3DFX MESA ICD anywhere on net? Thanks for your work Daniel AthlonXP 2100+@2700+, 256MB PC266@333 RAM,MSI MS-746F Ultra, Voodoo5 MAC PCI Reply author: dborca Replied on: 13:14:12 Message: quote: Originally posted by vykupitel So you have CVS snapshot of 3DFX MESA ICD anywhere on net? Visit and follow the instructions. You'll need a CVS client (WinCVS comes to mind). If you are not used with CVS, let me know! Quote: Thanks for your work Daniel NP! Regards, Borca Daniel Reply author: vykupitel Replied on: 13:29:34 Message: And what about SLI?
What I know there was some issue with it (but i can`t really remember if was with DRi or MESA:- ). Does it works? AthlonXP 2100+@2700+, 256MB PC266@333 RAM,MSI MS-746F Ultra, Voodoo5 MAC PCI + Voodoo5 6000 rev.
3700 A Reply author: dborca Replied on: 14:24:57 Message: quote: Originally posted by vykupitel And what about SLI? What I know there was some issue with it (but i can`t really remember if was with DRi or MESA:- ). Does it works?
The SLI setting is being done inside the Glide library, so Mesa is unaware of SLI. The only thing that Mesa deals with is FSAA! Having that said, wherever you have Glide setting SLI correctly, Mesa does it also. The Linux+DRI Glide is known to have no SLI support. Very recently, I revived the bare-bones Linux Glide3 (just like the old days Glide2), but unfortunately, it cannot access the secondary chips, due to the way PCI devices are mapped by the kernel. This limitation might be removed in the future Glide2 was easier, because the two SLI chips of V2 were on separate boards. Regards, Borca Daniel Reply author: vykupitel Replied on: 16:02:38 Message: OK,thanks for explanation.
So, I have CVS source,VC6.0SP5 instaled,i`m able to compile MesaGL.dll but only software support I think.The 3dfx howto needs glide2x.lib. Is there any possibility to compile with glide3x.lib? Have you got any howto? AthlonXP 2100+@2700+, 256MB PC266@333 RAM,MSI MS-746F Ultra, Voodoo5 MAC PCI + Voodoo5 6000 rev. 3700 A Reply author: vykupitel Replied on: 16:17:12 Message: Well, I think that with current FX/Mesa is really imposible to compile something that would work better on V5 than current 3dfx ICD. FX in mesa is very old crap i think.
So in my opinion you did some new FX driver with glide3x support didn`t you? I`ll wait for your sources Regards AthlonXP 2100+@2700+, 256MB PC266@333 RAM,MSI MS-746F Ultra, Voodoo5 MAC PCI + Voodoo5 6000 rev. 3700 A Reply author: dborca Replied on: 16:45:10 Message: quote: Originally posted by vykupitel I`ll wait for your sources Man, I forgot something!
You need to checkout the Mesa-newtree module from CVS! The standard Mesa points to 5.0.2 which I haven't touched!
As for the developing tools. You're on your own!
I don't do M$VC! So you have to either use MinGW or ask Kool for further instructions and the M$VC makefile (which, btw, I forgot to commit ). Quote: Well, I think that with current FX/Mesa is really imposible to compile something that would work better on V5 than current 3dfx ICD.
FX in mesa is very old crap i think. So in my opinion you did some new FX driver with glide3x support didn`t you? If you're that good as to judge FX/Mesa, then I'm sure you will be able to compile the Newtree But the answer is YES: the new driver has Glide3x. Regards, Borca Daniel Reply author: vykupitel Replied on: 09:05:43 Message: quote: Originally posted by dborca If you're that good as to judge FX/Mesa, then I'm sure you will be able to compile the Newtree But the answer is YES: the new driver has Glide3x.
Of course not, i`m not able to compile newtree but I`d like to try if you would help I can read howtos But when i see that FX/Mesa had support only for V1-V2 i think that this is old code and useless i think. But i`m very happy that new driver has support for glide3x thanks to kool and you daniel.
I'm looking forward for new ICD. Best regards AthlonXP 2100+@2700+, 256MB PC266@333 RAM,MSI MS-746F Ultra, Voodoo5 MAC PCI + Voodoo5 6000 rev. 3700 A Reply author: vykupitel Replied on: 15:02:27 Message: OK, i have functional MinGW, Mesa-newtree and 3dfx Glide3 SDK for DOS/Win32 V3.00.